Comments on: Enemies of Climate Action Turn Up the Heat

By: Climate 411 » Coal Industry Group Linked to Forged Letters - Blogs & Podcasts - Environmental Defense Fund

Tue, 04 Aug 2009 17:38:15 +0000

[...] told you the opposition was turning up the heat on the climate bill, but their efforts have reached a new [...]

By: Red

Red — Wed, 29 Jul 2009 20:48:27 +0000

CLEAN ENeRGY IS A DIRTY LIE;
ASK ME WHY,

Go ahead, ask. The environment is fine, it's the PEOPLE that are all )*&&%^ up.
Hey armorine, what about all the juice for your batteries and all the heavy metal for batteries, and the higher death rate for smaller vehicles, ad nauseum…….
S
And don't get me started on that long legged mac daddy in the white house. He's out to KILL jobs until we all succumb to a nanny state.
Outstanding in the cornfield,
beyond biofeedback
Red

By: armorine

armorine — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 17:31:27 +0000

Additionally, it is unfortunate that jpmorgan13, and others, believe that short-term cost increases won't result in long-term returns. One example would be a plug-in hybrid or an electric car (ex: Ford's all electric 2011 Focus option). While the down payment is more than a standard version, maintenance costs are less, fuel costs are less (probably less than 25 cents per day for an average commute, i.e. $100/year), and the resale value is higher (great at trade-in time).

And elitist, far from it. I'm a marine biologist with a Masters, which means I make nothing. :-)

By: Brad Johnson

Brad Johnson — Wed, 22 Jul 2009 22:09:37 +0000

It's unfortunate that jpmorgan13 believes that supporters of climate action are motivated by "elitist views" and disrespect for "sheeple in flyover country."

I and those I know are motivated instead by a deep love for their country, their children, and their neighbors. We see the damage global warming has caused around the globe and in our backyards, from Hurricane Katrina to the Iowa floods, and we recognize that oil and coal companies may not actually have our best interests at heart.

Fortunately, Waxman-Markey is designed to lift up the poorest among us — not just by limiting the ravages of global warming, but also by directing billions of dollars into job training, income support, building insulation, and relief from the crushing weight of their energy bills. As the EPA found, utility bills will go down and net incomes will rise for the poor, with minimal impact on even the very rich.

How is this possible? Because right now half the energy we produce is wasted. We lose energy on an outdated grid, heating and cooling leaky houses, driving gas guzzlers. There's so much opportunity in reducing pollution that even if we didn't need to tackle global warming for the sake of our children we'd be chumps not to seize this new economy.

By: jpmorgan13

jpmorgan13 — Wed, 22 Jul 2009 21:42:16 +0000

Yes. People are upset. Unfortunately you belief they are just sheeple in flyover America. Get over yourselves and your elitist views. Calling people with legitimate concerns teabaggers is disgraceful.

Unfortunately, these are real people who will be affected by higher costs for ALL products, not just their energy bills. People will pay more for milk, bread, and other basic necessities. This will hurt the poorest the most. It will also kill jobs.

All for something there is no proof we can control (climate change). Even if Cap and trade passes there would be an exodus of companies overseas where there are likely to pollute more than they would in America…causing MORE emissions.