Comments on: Infographic: Carbon Cap Leads to Jobs http://blogs.edf.org/climate411/2009/05/22/infographic-carbon-cap-leads-to-jobs/ Blogging the science and policy of global warming Mon, 16 Nov 2009 07:13:20 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5.2 hourly 1 By: Twitted by climatebill http://blogs.edf.org/climate411/2009/05/22/infographic-carbon-cap-leads-to-jobs/comment-page-1/#comment-5522 Twitted by climatebill Fri, 26 Jun 2009 18:56:44 +0000 http://blogs.edf.org/climate411/2009/05/22/infographic-carbon-cap-leads-to-jobs/#comment-5522 [...] This post was Twitted by climatebill [...] [...] This post was Twitted by climatebill [...]

]]> By: Curt Gilbert http://blogs.edf.org/climate411/2009/05/22/infographic-carbon-cap-leads-to-jobs/comment-page-1/#comment-5396 Curt Gilbert Thu, 28 May 2009 19:44:58 +0000 http://blogs.edf.org/climate411/2009/05/22/infographic-carbon-cap-leads-to-jobs/#comment-5396 All of this euphoria is nice, but there are two serious problems facing the environmental movement at this time. They are: 1. In the real world, (Spain which is well ahead of us in implementing green technologies, etc.), they found that they eliminated about 2.5 jobs for every green job created. Do we have a solution for this? 2. Right now the biggest obstacle to implementing green technologies is the environmental movement. There are now 65 major green projects challenged in the courts by environmentalists. Typical is the one in Oregon where a planned mountain ridge, (where the wind is), wind farm is opposed as unsightly. Environmentalists there want to move it to the low lands near a city, (where the wind isn't). Another is the establishment of solar collectors in the southwest, near national parks, etc. Solar collectors need to be where the sun shines, not where it doesn't. What is the program? Wind generators work only about 28% of the time in more or less ideal locations. Changing the the,location can double, triple or even quadruple the number of wind farms needed. What land will be taken? Is there a concerted plan, or will environmentalists continue to fight each other, one side pushing a project, the other fighting it in court? All of this euphoria is nice, but there are two serious problems facing the environmental movement at this time. They are:

1. In the real world, (Spain which is well ahead of us in implementing green technologies, etc.), they found that they eliminated about 2.5 jobs for every green job created. Do we have a solution for this?

2. Right now the biggest obstacle to implementing green technologies is the environmental movement. There are now 65 major green projects challenged in the courts by environmentalists. Typical is the one in Oregon where a planned mountain ridge, (where the wind is), wind farm is opposed as unsightly. Environmentalists there want to move it to the low lands near a city, (where the wind isn't). Another is the establishment of solar collectors in the southwest, near national parks, etc. Solar collectors need to be where the sun shines, not where it doesn't.

What is the program? Wind generators work only about 28% of the time in more or less ideal locations. Changing the the,location can double, triple or even quadruple the number of wind farms needed. What land will be taken? Is there a concerted plan, or will environmentalists continue to fight each other, one side pushing a project, the other fighting it in court?

]]> By: VE http://blogs.edf.org/climate411/2009/05/22/infographic-carbon-cap-leads-to-jobs/comment-page-1/#comment-5385 VE Mon, 25 May 2009 18:21:11 +0000 http://blogs.edf.org/climate411/2009/05/22/infographic-carbon-cap-leads-to-jobs/#comment-5385 I'm always curious about how much polution is created by the manufacturing and transportation of the wind turbines and other solutions. VE I'm always curious about how much polution is created by the manufacturing and transportation of the wind turbines and other solutions.

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