Comments on: Climate and the $3,100 Lie Detector http://blogs.edf.org/climate411/2009/05/07/climate-and-the-3100-lie-detector/ Blogging the science and policy of global warming Mon, 16 Nov 2009 07:13:20 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5.2 hourly 1 By: krugman’s indictment of climate change deniers « livefrombeijing http://blogs.edf.org/climate411/2009/05/07/climate-and-the-3100-lie-detector/comment-page-1/#comment-5557 krugman’s indictment of climate change deniers « livefrombeijing Mon, 06 Jul 2009 09:57:53 +0000 http://blogs.edf.org/climate411/2009/05/07/climate-and-the-3100-lie-detector/#comment-5557 [...] (Further info on the economic misrepresentation he mentions here and here.) [...] [...] (Further info on the economic misrepresentation he mentions here and here.) [...]

]]> By: Single Maria http://blogs.edf.org/climate411/2009/05/07/climate-and-the-3100-lie-detector/comment-page-1/#comment-5353 Single Maria Mon, 11 May 2009 13:48:19 +0000 http://blogs.edf.org/climate411/2009/05/07/climate-and-the-3100-lie-detector/#comment-5353 It does impress already that politician doesnt tell the truth. That is no news. What mean the sales tax on all goods ans services? Our life become more and more expensive, soon we cant pay for it. It does impress already that politician doesnt tell the truth. That is no news. What mean the sales tax on all goods ans services? Our life become more and more expensive, soon we cant pay for it.

]]> By: Peter Torbay http://blogs.edf.org/climate411/2009/05/07/climate-and-the-3100-lie-detector/comment-page-1/#comment-5352 Peter Torbay Sun, 10 May 2009 17:24:04 +0000 http://blogs.edf.org/climate411/2009/05/07/climate-and-the-3100-lie-detector/#comment-5352 Tony, you are being totally disengenuous. The EU proposes $10 per tonne of CO2 equivalent. America produces 30 BILLION metric tonnes of CO2 equivalent in 2007. That's $300 BILLION dollars in CC&T taxes for 2007, divided by 150,000,000 working Americans, or $2,000 per year per working adult, according to the CC$T tax model. Competition for carbon credits could push that higher. Now comes Washington State proposing a CC$T annual vehicle relicensing fee of $425. The average family owns 2 or more vehicles, therefore the annual cost of CC&T for Washington State will be $850 per family, at a minimum. Wait! There's more!! Washington State is also proposing a CC$T sales tax on all goods and services, based apparently on non-renewable energy production cost, presumably, although there is no benchmark, and the entire sum of CC$T sales tax revenues will be rolled into more ecology white papers, 'research' and more Department of Ecology staff hiring. The WA CC$T GST will exceed $350 per year per taxpayer, that's the budget shortfall bridge State says it needs to develop! Hmmm, $2000 + $850 + $350 = $3200 CC$T per person per year Those numbers are UNEQUIVOCAL. Junk science becomes junk politics, lying to the People, that's how desperate the Inconvenient Truth Movement is. Tony, you are being totally disengenuous.

The EU proposes $10 per tonne of CO2 equivalent. America produces 30 BILLION metric tonnes of CO2 equivalent in 2007. That's $300 BILLION dollars in CC&T taxes for 2007, divided by 150,000,000 working Americans, or $2,000 per year per working adult, according to the CC$T tax model.

Competition for carbon credits could push that higher.

Now comes Washington State proposing a CC$T annual vehicle relicensing fee of $425. The average family owns 2 or more vehicles, therefore the annual cost of CC&T for Washington State will be $850 per family, at a minimum.

Wait! There's more!!

Washington State is also proposing a CC$T sales tax on all goods and services, based apparently on non-renewable energy production cost, presumably, although there is no benchmark, and the entire sum of CC$T sales tax revenues will be rolled into more ecology white papers, 'research' and more Department of Ecology staff hiring. The WA CC$T GST will exceed $350 per year per taxpayer, that's the budget shortfall bridge State says it needs to develop!

Hmmm, $2000 + $850 + $350 = $3200 CC$T per person per year

Those numbers are UNEQUIVOCAL.

Junk science becomes junk politics, lying to the People, that's how desperate the Inconvenient Truth Movement is.

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