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		<title>By: Apollo Alliance Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Food for thought on the green jobs debate</title>
		<link>http://blogs.edf.org/climate411/2009/04/17/green-jobs-not-just-economic-projections/comment-page-1/#comment-5565</link>
		<dc:creator>Apollo Alliance Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Food for thought on the green jobs debate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 21:00:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] getting his comeuppance from the likes of NRDC, David Yarnold of EDF, and PERI’s Bob Pollin, he wrote a new column that exhibited slightly more evolved thinking [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] getting his comeuppance from the likes of NRDC, David Yarnold of EDF, and PERI’s Bob Pollin, he wrote a new column that exhibited slightly more evolved thinking [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Going Green</title>
		<link>http://blogs.edf.org/climate411/2009/04/17/green-jobs-not-just-economic-projections/comment-page-1/#comment-5484</link>
		<dc:creator>Going Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 12:50:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are plenty of things you can do as an individual, and a household, that can reduce the damage done to our environment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are plenty of things you can do as an individual, and a household, that can reduce the damage done to our environment.</p>
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		<title>By: Pierre Champagne</title>
		<link>http://blogs.edf.org/climate411/2009/04/17/green-jobs-not-just-economic-projections/comment-page-1/#comment-5282</link>
		<dc:creator>Pierre Champagne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 15:42:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the major benefit of green jobs is that it is a growth sector of the future.  It is one of the argument in support of adopting a structural strategy (see &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wavesofthefuture.net/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Cap-and-Trade Alternatives&lt;/a&gt;) as opposed to cap-and-trade.

The US is loosing that battle at the moment.  A more aggressive approach as the one suggested by Henderson (above) would benefit the country and greatly stimulate green growth. 

The other major advantage to green jobs is with respect to producing energy locally as opposed to importing it.  Those are jobs that are going to stick around even when the fiscal stimulus money has gone.

Tags: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wavesofthefuture.net/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Global Warming Structural Strategies&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the major benefit of green jobs is that it is a growth sector of the future.  It is one of the argument in support of adopting a structural strategy (see <a href="http://www.wavesofthefuture.net/" rel="nofollow">Cap-and-Trade Alternatives</a>) as opposed to cap-and-trade.</p>
<p>The US is loosing that battle at the moment.  A more aggressive approach as the one suggested by Henderson (above) would benefit the country and greatly stimulate green growth. </p>
<p>The other major advantage to green jobs is with respect to producing energy locally as opposed to importing it.  Those are jobs that are going to stick around even when the fiscal stimulus money has gone.</p>
<p>Tags: <a href="http://www.wavesofthefuture.net/" rel="nofollow">Global Warming Structural Strategies</a></p>
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		<title>By: william</title>
		<link>http://blogs.edf.org/climate411/2009/04/17/green-jobs-not-just-economic-projections/comment-page-1/#comment-5281</link>
		<dc:creator>william</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 10:05:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

This action proves to be a win, win situation. This is a true art work, which will be a success story.

William,

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.onlinejobsitesuk.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Online Uk Jobs Resource&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>This action proves to be a win, win situation. This is a true art work, which will be a success story.</p>
<p>William,</p>
<p><a href="http://www.onlinejobsitesuk.com" rel="nofollow">Online Uk Jobs Resource</a></p>
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		<title>By: makme01</title>
		<link>http://blogs.edf.org/climate411/2009/04/17/green-jobs-not-just-economic-projections/comment-page-1/#comment-5279</link>
		<dc:creator>makme01</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 01:35:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see there are mostly sheep in the world, who blindly believe and follow in a new religion of Climate change caused by humans. In my research humans cannot affect climate change even if we wanted to. The technology is not there,as well as no scientific proof of it. I am a scientist/Doctor. People need to read between the lines of what is said and read both sides of any issue,before believing in something. It is good to protect the earth from pollution, but come on folks, we breather out CO2. Are we going to have to commit mass sucide to save the earth? and for what?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see there are mostly sheep in the world, who blindly believe and follow in a new religion of Climate change caused by humans. In my research humans cannot affect climate change even if we wanted to. The technology is not there,as well as no scientific proof of it. I am a scientist/Doctor. People need to read between the lines of what is said and read both sides of any issue,before believing in something. It is good to protect the earth from pollution, but come on folks, we breather out CO2. Are we going to have to commit mass sucide to save the earth? and for what?</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Exton</title>
		<link>http://blogs.edf.org/climate411/2009/04/17/green-jobs-not-just-economic-projections/comment-page-1/#comment-5278</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Exton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 22:27:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To say that Cap-and-Trade will create jobs is pure propaganda, because the opposite is true. The global warming hoax is nothing more than Cannibalism. It steals the time people spend at work and gives it to Government Bureaucracies that waste. For ever dollar the  government takes in over 70% is wasted.  There is not one politician that can give you the proven scientific proof that anthropogenic warming has been proven beyond a doubt.  The reason being there isn’t any. Mankind could not change temperatures, even if we tried. So it comes down believe the lies and live in poverty, or fight the lies and return sanity to the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To say that Cap-and-Trade will create jobs is pure propaganda, because the opposite is true. The global warming hoax is nothing more than Cannibalism. It steals the time people spend at work and gives it to Government Bureaucracies that waste. For ever dollar the  government takes in over 70% is wasted.  There is not one politician that can give you the proven scientific proof that anthropogenic warming has been proven beyond a doubt.  The reason being there isn’t any. Mankind could not change temperatures, even if we tried. So it comes down believe the lies and live in poverty, or fight the lies and return sanity to the world.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Gunther &#187; Second thoughts on green jobs (and economists)</title>
		<link>http://blogs.edf.org/climate411/2009/04/17/green-jobs-not-just-economic-projections/comment-page-1/#comment-5277</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc Gunther &#187; Second thoughts on green jobs (and economists)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 06:18:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] and benefits of climate regulation. David Yarnold of the Environmental Defense Fund responded with his own blogpost. Folks in NRDC ‘s climate operation were displeased, as was economist Bob Pollin of the Political [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] and benefits of climate regulation. David Yarnold of the Environmental Defense Fund responded with his own blogpost. Folks in NRDC ‘s climate operation were displeased, as was economist Bob Pollin of the Political [...]</p>
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		<title>By: McBuild &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Climate 411 =BB Green Jobs: Not Just Economic Projections - Blogs &#8230;</title>
		<link>http://blogs.edf.org/climate411/2009/04/17/green-jobs-not-just-economic-projections/comment-page-1/#comment-5276</link>
		<dc:creator>McBuild &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Climate 411 =BB Green Jobs: Not Just Economic Projections - Blogs &#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 07:16:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] By David Yarnold My real worry is that EDF and other environmental groups are playing down t= he costs of climate regulation=96rather than building support for th= e idea that we may have to pay a price. Maybe even more than a dime a day. = Posted from  Climate 411 - Environmental Defense Fund - http://blogs.edf.org/climate411/=  [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] By David Yarnold My real worry is that EDF and other environmental groups are playing down t= he costs of climate regulation=96rather than building support for th= e idea that we may have to pay a price. Maybe even more than a dime a day. = Posted from  Climate 411 &#8211; Environmental Defense Fund &#8211; <a href="http://blogs.edf.org/climate411/=" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.edf.org/climate411/=</a>  [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Climate 411 » Green Jobs: Not Just Economic Projections - Blogs &#8230; &#124; GREEN-2009 BLOG</title>
		<link>http://blogs.edf.org/climate411/2009/04/17/green-jobs-not-just-economic-projections/comment-page-1/#comment-5275</link>
		<dc:creator>Climate 411 » Green Jobs: Not Just Economic Projections - Blogs &#8230; &#124; GREEN-2009 BLOG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 03:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The rest is here:  Climate 411 » Green Jobs: Not Just Economic Projections - Blogs &#8230; [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Marc Gunther</title>
		<link>http://blogs.edf.org/climate411/2009/04/17/green-jobs-not-just-economic-projections/comment-page-1/#comment-5274</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc Gunther</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 20:58:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know I&#039;m with you, David, in my belief that we need strong legislation to cap greenhouse gas emissions. I don&#039;t mean to comfort the deniers or the muddiers. And I hope you are right that regulation will create more green jobs than the &quot;brown&quot; jobs that could be lost. The evidence suggests that&#039;s the case because today&#039;s renewable energy industry is more labor-intensive than making electricity from coal or gas plants. But I have little to no faith in economic projections, particularly given how dynamic the changes ahead could be.

My real worry is that EDF and other environmental groups are playing down the costs of climate regulation--rather than building support for the idea that we may have to pay a price. Maybe even more than a dime a day. We may have to make sacrifices. We need to be honest with one another about that. And I would hope Americans will be willing since, as you note, the benefits are so great--not just for us but for our children and grandchildren.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know I&#039;m with you, David, in my belief that we need strong legislation to cap greenhouse gas emissions. I don&#039;t mean to comfort the deniers or the muddiers. And I hope you are right that regulation will create more green jobs than the &#034;brown&#034; jobs that could be lost. The evidence suggests that&#039;s the case because today&#039;s renewable energy industry is more labor-intensive than making electricity from coal or gas plants. But I have little to no faith in economic projections, particularly given how dynamic the changes ahead could be.</p>
<p>My real worry is that EDF and other environmental groups are playing down the costs of climate regulation&#8211;rather than building support for the idea that we may have to pay a price. Maybe even more than a dime a day. We may have to make sacrifices. We need to be honest with one another about that. And I would hope Americans will be willing since, as you note, the benefits are so great&#8211;not just for us but for our children and grandchildren.</p>
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