Comments on: U.S. Government Scientists Chime In http://blogs.edf.org/climate411/2008/06/23/gov_report_extreme_weather/ Blogging the science and policy of global warming Mon, 16 Nov 2009 07:13:20 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5.2 hourly 1 By: fred1 http://blogs.edf.org/climate411/2008/06/23/gov_report_extreme_weather/comment-page-1/#comment-1510 fred1 Tue, 24 Jun 2008 13:09:28 +0000 http://blogs.edf.org/climate411/2008/06/23/gov_report_extreme_weather/#comment-1510 And simple thermodynamics as it relates to extreme wx events shows that most storm systems in the mid latitudes are strengthened by the temperature differences between air masses....in other words, warm air masses from the subtropical areas colliding with colder air masses from the northern mid latitude areas. this is what has been happening in the Midwest where you have had an unusually cool spring. this cool air is still in place interacting with warmer air from the Gulf of Mexico. throw in the jet stream and you have increased storms. in summary, the global cooling we are currently experiencing is playing a major role in causing the extreme weather, due to higher differentials between hot and cold. Global warming, which would typically occur in the mid to upper latitudes (we all know the tropics don't really get warmer during global warming periods), would cause a decrease in the regional temperature differentials that drive intense weather fronts and systems. in this case too bad we are not experiencing global warming since that would help to minimize the extreme events in the midwest. we need to blame the current global cooling trend as a main culprit for these events. i don't understand why all these "scientists" don't admit that.. And simple thermodynamics as it relates to extreme wx events shows that most storm systems in the mid latitudes are strengthened by the temperature differences between air masses….in other words, warm air masses from the subtropical areas colliding with colder air masses from the northern mid latitude areas. this is what has been happening in the Midwest where you have had an unusually cool spring. this cool air is still in place interacting with warmer air from the Gulf of Mexico. throw in the jet stream and you have increased storms.

in summary, the global cooling we are currently experiencing is playing a major role in causing the extreme weather, due to higher differentials between hot and cold. Global warming, which would typically occur in the mid to upper latitudes (we all know the tropics don't really get warmer during global warming periods), would cause a decrease in the regional temperature differentials that drive intense weather fronts and systems.

in this case too bad we are not experiencing global warming since that would help to minimize the extreme events in the midwest. we need to blame the current global cooling trend as a main culprit for these events.

i don't understand why all these "scientists" don't admit that..

]]> By: mikes http://blogs.edf.org/climate411/2008/06/23/gov_report_extreme_weather/comment-page-1/#comment-1503 mikes Mon, 23 Jun 2008 20:32:25 +0000 http://blogs.edf.org/climate411/2008/06/23/gov_report_extreme_weather/#comment-1503 Except that the Midwest floods have nothing to do with "Global Warming" http://wattsupwiththat.wordpress.com/2008/06/22/midwest-floods-and-unjustified-climate-change-fears/ And, most of the conclusions in the report have no basis in peer-reviewed research: http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/prometheus/archives/climate_change/001462what_the_ccsp_extrem.html And, on the 20th Anniversary of Jim Hansen's original testimony to Congress, world temperatures are cooler than on the day he testified: http://icecap.us/images/uploads/HANSEN_AND_CONGRESS.jpg Except that the Midwest floods have nothing to do with "Global Warming"
http://wattsupwiththat.wordpress.com/2008/06/22/midwest-floods-and-unjustified-climate-change-fears/

And, most of the conclusions in the report have no basis in peer-reviewed research:
http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/prometheus/archives/climate_change/001462what_the_ccsp_extrem.html

And, on the 20th Anniversary of Jim Hansen's original testimony to Congress, world temperatures are cooler than on the day he testified:
http://icecap.us/images/uploads/HANSEN_AND_CONGRESS.jpg

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