Comments on: Top 5 Reasons Why the Senate Must Act

By: mikes

mikes — Thu, 05 Jun 2008 02:27:09 +0000

"Do you believe that any concern for the environment is misplaced?" Of course not. I consider myself both an environmentalist and a scientist (my background is in meteorology).

That said, the facts indicate the IPCC's scientific case is weakening (world temperatures dropped again in May, solar activity continues at very low levels, etc.) and I am dismayed at some of the scientific inaccuracies in the stories on this site so I have attempted to correct the record.

Bad science is never a good thing.

By: daveinchitown

daveinchitown — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 20:00:08 +0000

There is a section in this bill, Section 4401, which could be used to increase construction and use of nuclear power. Nuclear is NOT green – fossil fuels are required for mining, transportation, and processing of nuclear fuel. Also, nuclear power plants routinely emit radioactive gases are part of their normal operations. Of course, disposing of spent fuel is also of major concern, .

By: timgo

timgo — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 16:20:45 +0000

I wonder where does mikes' skepticism begin and end. Do you believe that any concern for the environment is misplaced?

By: rick

rick — Mon, 26 May 2008 12:59:22 +0000

Folks its really not all that Complicated
Everyone can be happy with solutions already available.

I thought you may like to look through these links.
Please let me know if this is helpful.

I don't expect you all to buy anything from any of these people.
My sole purpose is to get the word out. I can't afford $4-$5 per gallon gas.

I figure the more the word gets out the more available these things will become.

Our climate has been changing since the begining of time it self.
Also there are sections of the world that were once warm and are no longer. So who is to say what the Ideal climate for any given time is.

HOWEVER…

Honda makes Water/Hydrogen fuel cell
http://automobiles.honda.com/fcx-clarity/

GM Makes Water/Hydrogen fuel cell
http://www.gm.com/explore/technology/news/2007/fuel_cells/sequel_051607.jsp

BMW Makes Water/Hydrogen Fuel cell
http://www.bmwusa.com/Standard/Content/Uniquely/FutureTechnologies/EfficientDynamics/Hydrogen.aspx

Man Converts his car over to use water as sole fuel source ( I Like this one it is very visual )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_j7d-FJ7TQk

Man Uses Micro fission HHO to make Cutting torch and converts his car over to completely use water as fuel source
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKM4pb9Oxrg

Web Site for conversion kits for both Hybrid and full conversion
http://www.overunity.com/
Story on Water/HHO as fuel sorce with references (this is a site I made)
http://www.octafrog.com/?p=25

By: skeptic1

skeptic1 — Sat, 24 May 2008 05:45:04 +0000

Well here's one more person that agrees with mikes. In fact as mikes mentioned, there are 30000 scientists that signed a petition that says
"There is no convincing scientific evidence that human release of carbon dioxide, methane, or other greenhouse gases is causing, or will, in the foreseeable future, cause catastrophic heating of the Earth's atmosphere and disruption of the Earth's climate. Moreover, there is substantial scientific evidence that increases in atmospheric carbon dioxide produce many beneficial effects on the natural plant and animal environments of the Earth."

So Cheryl and others at your organization, you appear to be very biased and closed minded, but the facts speak for themselves.

By: Sheryl Canter

Sheryl Canter — Thu, 22 May 2008 18:19:18 +0000

The y-axis isn't labeled. It looks like temperature data, and the line is going up. Thus my comment.

I'm not the scientist here. I could refer your post to one of our scientists, but whether the world is warming or cooling is not in dispute (except for you). Even President Bush acknowledges the world is warming. So there's nothing more to say about it.

By: mikes

mikes — Thu, 22 May 2008 18:06:22 +0000

Sheryl,

I say this with respect, but if you are not familiar with this set of data and cannot discern that it presently shows a rapid cooling trend then I suggest you educate yourself before writing additional pieces on this topic.

I will happily email you with the background information. Just post that you would like to see it and I'll contact you offline.

Best wishes,

Mike

By: Sheryl Canter

Sheryl Canter — Thu, 22 May 2008 16:58:22 +0000

I have no idea where this data comes from, but in any case, the graph clearly shows an upward (warming) trend, not a cooling trend.

By: mikes

mikes — Thu, 22 May 2008 16:47:43 +0000

For everyone's convenience, here are the four measures of world temperature plotted on the same graph:

http://www.woodfortrees.org/plot/hadcrut3vgl/last:360/offset:-0.146/mean:12/plot/uah/last:360/mean:12/plot/rss/last:360/mean:12/plot/gistemp/last:360/offset:-0.238/mean:12

Clearly, the world is cooling.

By: mikes

mikes — Wed, 21 May 2008 20:17:25 +0000

Sheryl and Ithorell,

Thanks for the constructive comments. We may have to 'agree to disagree.'

Because I don't wish to drag this out, I will keep this post brief.

Keeping the problems with the GISS data set out of the discussion, here's proof temperatures are falling: Go to the link for the world temperatures at: http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/graphs/Fig.A2.lrg.gif . Now go to the MONTHLY data: http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/graphs/Fig.C.lrg.gif and you will see that average temperatures for the past twelve months is about +0.4°. Now, plot that data point on NASA's yearly graph. World air and ocean temperatures are, at present, cooling.

With temperatures falling, what explains the loss of arctic ice last summer? There are at least two published papers that indicate large amounts of particulate pollution from China is being carried over the northern polar regions. If so that is correct, look at this demonstration: http://climatesci.org/2008/04/02/guest-weblog-on-albedo-from-mike-smith/ . That will answer the question as to how ice can melt more rapidly even as temperatures fall. Cutting down greenhouse gasses will do nothing to stop melting due to changes in albedo.