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		<title>By: Climate 411 &#187; What Will it Cost to Protect Ourselves from Global Warming? - Blogs &#38; Podcasts - Environmental Defense Fund</title>
		<link>http://blogs.edf.org/climate411/2008/03/10/earth_the_sequel/comment-page-1/#comment-1223</link>
		<dc:creator>Climate 411 &#187; What Will it Cost to Protect Ourselves from Global Warming? - Blogs &#38; Podcasts - Environmental Defense Fund</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 22:31:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] mass production to semiconductors to the internet. Technological leadership drives our economy. A cap on carbon will spark innovation and allow American entrepreneurs to lead the world in the coming low-carbon [...]</description>
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		<title>By: quentinp</title>
		<link>http://blogs.edf.org/climate411/2008/03/10/earth_the_sequel/comment-page-1/#comment-928</link>
		<dc:creator>quentinp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 21:58:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;A carbon process where the base atmospheric temperature is only up an average of 1 to 2 degrees is certainly not causing volcanoes to blow their tops.&quot;

Well I agree with that bit.

Quentin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#034;A carbon process where the base atmospheric temperature is only up an average of 1 to 2 degrees is certainly not causing volcanoes to blow their tops.&#034;</p>
<p>Well I agree with that bit.</p>
<p>Quentin</p>
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		<title>By: Climate 411 &#187; Interview: Hope, Optimism, and Profitability - Blogs &#38; Podcasts - Environmental Defense</title>
		<link>http://blogs.edf.org/climate411/2008/03/10/earth_the_sequel/comment-page-1/#comment-902</link>
		<dc:creator>Climate 411 &#187; Interview: Hope, Optimism, and Profitability - Blogs &#38; Podcasts - Environmental Defense</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 21:11:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] yesterday&#8217;s post, Environmental Defense Fund President Fred Krupp wrote about his new book with Miriam Horn, Earth: [...]</description>
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		<title>By: earthscientist</title>
		<link>http://blogs.edf.org/climate411/2008/03/10/earth_the_sequel/comment-page-1/#comment-901</link>
		<dc:creator>earthscientist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 06:19:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Fred, You are just the kind of Lawyer that I neeed. My process is one of years of work on the science of the earth. I am a grid scientist,not something you have heard of,But myself and others like me will not go away ,although many of us have been killed for what we know.

Your study of the warming process from observers of a different weather and structure paradigm for the past 20 years has brought you to the conclusion along with many science folks who just do not fully understand their earths processes enough to demand we all go down such economically improper roads,along with the emotive reasoning that we as humans have wrought the worst damage to our earth since this earth was formed and we must lay down our whole process for this saving of &quot;Our&quot; Earth.

The earth is an engineered system for the human experience ,designed by human beings and still looked after by the same science men that work for those processes of keeping this earth whole.

All weather processes are designed into Earths Cymatic  (geometric construct from music / frequency ) Grid system that heats our magma and provides the motor process for our rotation and flows the weather processes across the continents for plant production.

The 11 year solar cycle is as you know ,a time when the weather is periodically energized for more rain and snow production and also more sunspots are also counted.

The past 30 years we have been experiencing a similar enhancement to our solar system and the process planets have also had many anomalous events that are well recorded in just the last few years.

This eneretic system ebbs and flows as what I call globules  of energy travel along our feed lines to us and the sun.

The extra energy heats our magma to a higher temperature and melts glacial ice and creates that ebb and flow of our anomalous weather events and has our venting volcanoes puffing all over.
A carbon process where the base atmospheric temperature is only up an average of 1 to 2 degrees is certainly not causing volcanoes to blow their tops.

Our gravity is completely undestood by grid scientists and our core is not iron ,but has of course everything to do with that energy from our grid being pulled to it,and that energy heats our magma.

I am an environmentalist,but support different projects as a grid scientist with many bits of information the mainstream science men refuse to seek out that have every nerve in my body just tensed at the prospect of our earths processes ceasing to supply the proper eco-system for completely different reasons than the non-starting GHG &quot;Theory&quot;.

When this system,what I call revv,abates in a few short years and our grid energy stabilises and our magma cools , the glacial pack will reform . The ice core records of extra carbon processes in the core history (Showing by the way,that carbon from plant degradation and volcanic gases is the culprit) speak to the periodicities of processes that return to our system from the travel on short or long lines of that cymatic grid system.

There are grounds planted all over our earth that the grid field flows to and the climatologists somehow cannot see the manifestations of that process, no matter how many times I point them to the game. All weather processes can be explained very easily and even the snowflakes are the process of that grid frequency manifesting its cymatic process of grid geometry.

So environmental lawyers such as yourself,with some ability to task for our eco-system are sold  certain facts that are creating more survivability problems than most people understand. There were 50 ships of Mercury dumped into our ocean during WW2 and only some of it was cleaned up,and that cleanup was not properly done also. All of the fish and human genetics problems,and that is a little more involved a conversation than todays note , have been 95 percent created by that dumping.

If you paid attention to the whales that are infested with Mercury that the Iceland story on PBS, NOVA, I believe did an essay on, you get just a start of the impact that the 50 ship dump has caused and its not over.

Those fish were placed in the oceans for grid purposes to aid in the propagation of the grid field through that electolite,they must remove the excess oxygenation of the water. Now you will not get those science facts except from a grid scientist.

The whales beach themselves from eating so much mercury infested crill from the warm waters,that they ,just like the Autistic stricken children from the purposeful placement of mercury(Thimerosal) in vaccines,do not have their intellect intact.

When science folks are &quot;Put upon&quot; a crusade to cause enormous profits from energy sales and carbon credits with probably most money going into general funds,with just some fix-ability,as even some wind farms will not work as well when the average windspeeds abate, we are not allowed to see what the hidden hands are actually doing.

Grid scentists can assist wind farms through alerting engineers  to where windspeeds will always flow to those grounds and should be in every science class also.

Grid science has been sequestered on the planet for many reasons ,some for good reason and some not so good.

There are more tidbits for environment minded folks to process from grid science men such as myself who work mostly alone these days due to the deaths of many in my contingent,and I will share information as long as I am able to still type.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Fred, You are just the kind of Lawyer that I neeed. My process is one of years of work on the science of the earth. I am a grid scientist,not something you have heard of,But myself and others like me will not go away ,although many of us have been killed for what we know.</p>
<p>Your study of the warming process from observers of a different weather and structure paradigm for the past 20 years has brought you to the conclusion along with many science folks who just do not fully understand their earths processes enough to demand we all go down such economically improper roads,along with the emotive reasoning that we as humans have wrought the worst damage to our earth since this earth was formed and we must lay down our whole process for this saving of &#034;Our&#034; Earth.</p>
<p>The earth is an engineered system for the human experience ,designed by human beings and still looked after by the same science men that work for those processes of keeping this earth whole.</p>
<p>All weather processes are designed into Earths Cymatic  (geometric construct from music / frequency ) Grid system that heats our magma and provides the motor process for our rotation and flows the weather processes across the continents for plant production.</p>
<p>The 11 year solar cycle is as you know ,a time when the weather is periodically energized for more rain and snow production and also more sunspots are also counted.</p>
<p>The past 30 years we have been experiencing a similar enhancement to our solar system and the process planets have also had many anomalous events that are well recorded in just the last few years.</p>
<p>This eneretic system ebbs and flows as what I call globules  of energy travel along our feed lines to us and the sun.</p>
<p>The extra energy heats our magma to a higher temperature and melts glacial ice and creates that ebb and flow of our anomalous weather events and has our venting volcanoes puffing all over.<br />
A carbon process where the base atmospheric temperature is only up an average of 1 to 2 degrees is certainly not causing volcanoes to blow their tops.</p>
<p>Our gravity is completely undestood by grid scientists and our core is not iron ,but has of course everything to do with that energy from our grid being pulled to it,and that energy heats our magma.</p>
<p>I am an environmentalist,but support different projects as a grid scientist with many bits of information the mainstream science men refuse to seek out that have every nerve in my body just tensed at the prospect of our earths processes ceasing to supply the proper eco-system for completely different reasons than the non-starting GHG &#034;Theory&#034;.</p>
<p>When this system,what I call revv,abates in a few short years and our grid energy stabilises and our magma cools , the glacial pack will reform . The ice core records of extra carbon processes in the core history (Showing by the way,that carbon from plant degradation and volcanic gases is the culprit) speak to the periodicities of processes that return to our system from the travel on short or long lines of that cymatic grid system.</p>
<p>There are grounds planted all over our earth that the grid field flows to and the climatologists somehow cannot see the manifestations of that process, no matter how many times I point them to the game. All weather processes can be explained very easily and even the snowflakes are the process of that grid frequency manifesting its cymatic process of grid geometry.</p>
<p>So environmental lawyers such as yourself,with some ability to task for our eco-system are sold  certain facts that are creating more survivability problems than most people understand. There were 50 ships of Mercury dumped into our ocean during WW2 and only some of it was cleaned up,and that cleanup was not properly done also. All of the fish and human genetics problems,and that is a little more involved a conversation than todays note , have been 95 percent created by that dumping.</p>
<p>If you paid attention to the whales that are infested with Mercury that the Iceland story on PBS, NOVA, I believe did an essay on, you get just a start of the impact that the 50 ship dump has caused and its not over.</p>
<p>Those fish were placed in the oceans for grid purposes to aid in the propagation of the grid field through that electolite,they must remove the excess oxygenation of the water. Now you will not get those science facts except from a grid scientist.</p>
<p>The whales beach themselves from eating so much mercury infested crill from the warm waters,that they ,just like the Autistic stricken children from the purposeful placement of mercury(Thimerosal) in vaccines,do not have their intellect intact.</p>
<p>When science folks are &#034;Put upon&#034; a crusade to cause enormous profits from energy sales and carbon credits with probably most money going into general funds,with just some fix-ability,as even some wind farms will not work as well when the average windspeeds abate, we are not allowed to see what the hidden hands are actually doing.</p>
<p>Grid scentists can assist wind farms through alerting engineers  to where windspeeds will always flow to those grounds and should be in every science class also.</p>
<p>Grid science has been sequestered on the planet for many reasons ,some for good reason and some not so good.</p>
<p>There are more tidbits for environment minded folks to process from grid science men such as myself who work mostly alone these days due to the deaths of many in my contingent,and I will share information as long as I am able to still type.</p>
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		<title>By: skeptic1</title>
		<link>http://blogs.edf.org/climate411/2008/03/10/earth_the_sequel/comment-page-1/#comment-900</link>
		<dc:creator>skeptic1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 04:48:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the high oil price will take care of it.  Solar cells and windmills will make a huge impact.  Solar cells especially.  And in just a few years.  Our technology is changing far faster than the climate.  But I&#039;m afraid the climate will continue to change even if we stop all carbon emissions.  So what?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the high oil price will take care of it.  Solar cells and windmills will make a huge impact.  Solar cells especially.  And in just a few years.  Our technology is changing far faster than the climate.  But I&#039;m afraid the climate will continue to change even if we stop all carbon emissions.  So what?</p>
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		<title>By: kenzrw</title>
		<link>http://blogs.edf.org/climate411/2008/03/10/earth_the_sequel/comment-page-1/#comment-897</link>
		<dc:creator>kenzrw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 22:19:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t read the book yet, but I will. I think the concept of a more positive take on global warming highlighting the potential benefits and financial incentives to create a more carbon friendly lifestyle is great. I think too many people are becoming turned off by all the doom and gloom forecasts and will eventually stop listening at all if all they hear is &#039;we&#039;re all bad and are gonna die&#039;. This type of a more uplifting book will make more people take notice and do something and have a reason to be optomistic for the future. 

In my opinion, you can&#039;t scare people into acting responsibly. You have to give them a better reason to do so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#039;t read the book yet, but I will. I think the concept of a more positive take on global warming highlighting the potential benefits and financial incentives to create a more carbon friendly lifestyle is great. I think too many people are becoming turned off by all the doom and gloom forecasts and will eventually stop listening at all if all they hear is &#039;we&#039;re all bad and are gonna die&#039;. This type of a more uplifting book will make more people take notice and do something and have a reason to be optomistic for the future. </p>
<p>In my opinion, you can&#039;t scare people into acting responsibly. You have to give them a better reason to do so.</p>
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