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		<title>By: Climate 411 &#187; Why Drilling in Alaska Is an Extremely Bad Idea - Blogs &#38; Podcasts - Environmental Defense Fund</title>
		<link>http://blogs.edf.org/climate411/2007/10/19/urgency_of_action/comment-page-1/#comment-1773</link>
		<dc:creator>Climate 411 &#187; Why Drilling in Alaska Is an Extremely Bad Idea - Blogs &#38; Podcasts - Environmental Defense Fund</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 16:24:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] oil would be too little too late. Our planning for 2026 should not be centered around oil, but rather on new energy technologies. As [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] oil would be too little too late. Our planning for 2026 should not be centered around oil, but rather on new energy technologies. As [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Climate 411 &#187; The Global Warming in the Pipeline - Blogs &#38; Podcasts - Environmental Defense Fund</title>
		<link>http://blogs.edf.org/climate411/2007/10/19/urgency_of_action/comment-page-1/#comment-1174</link>
		<dc:creator>Climate 411 &#187; The Global Warming in the Pipeline - Blogs &#38; Podcasts - Environmental Defense Fund</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 19:25:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] common refrain here on Climate411 is that we need to cut greenhouse gas emissions as soon as possible. One of the reasons we’ve cited numerous times is that, even if we could stabilize greenhouse gas [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] common refrain here on Climate411 is that we need to cut greenhouse gas emissions as soon as possible. One of the reasons we’ve cited numerous times is that, even if we could stabilize greenhouse gas [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Climate 411 &#187; Phone Calls from the Congressional Budget Office - Blogs &#38; Podcasts - Environmental Defense</title>
		<link>http://blogs.edf.org/climate411/2007/10/19/urgency_of_action/comment-page-1/#comment-868</link>
		<dc:creator>Climate 411 &#187; Phone Calls from the Congressional Budget Office - Blogs &#38; Podcasts - Environmental Defense</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 18:12:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] temperature). If the Greenland Ice Sheet melts, this would eventually - and inevitably - cause sea levels to rise over 20 feet, flooding heavily populated coastal areas around the world. And this is just one [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] temperature). If the Greenland Ice Sheet melts, this would eventually &#8211; and inevitably &#8211; cause sea levels to rise over 20 feet, flooding heavily populated coastal areas around the world. And this is just one [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Climate 411 &#187; Why a Bill in 2008: Price of Waiting - Blogs &#38; Podcasts - Environmental Defense</title>
		<link>http://blogs.edf.org/climate411/2007/10/19/urgency_of_action/comment-page-1/#comment-799</link>
		<dc:creator>Climate 411 &#187; Why a Bill in 2008: Price of Waiting - Blogs &#38; Podcasts - Environmental Defense</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 02:26:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the Earth warms, we approach a &quot;tipping point&quot; of no return, after which large destructive changes become inevitable. The most immediate potential catastrophe [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the Earth warms, we approach a &quot;tipping point&quot; of no return, after which large destructive changes become inevitable. The most immediate potential catastrophe [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Climate 411 &#187; Why a Bill in 2008: Same Politics in 2009 - Blogs &#38; Podcasts - Environmental Defense</title>
		<link>http://blogs.edf.org/climate411/2007/10/19/urgency_of_action/comment-page-1/#comment-768</link>
		<dc:creator>Climate 411 &#187; Why a Bill in 2008: Same Politics in 2009 - Blogs &#38; Podcasts - Environmental Defense</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 21:18:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] we can&#8217;t afford to wait. More on this, and why waiting doesn&#8217;t guarantee a better bill, in future [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] we can&#039;t afford to wait. More on this, and why waiting doesn&#039;t guarantee a better bill, in future [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Climate 411 &#38;#187; Rise of Atmospheric Carbon is Accelerating - Environmental Defense</title>
		<link>http://blogs.edf.org/climate411/2007/10/19/urgency_of_action/comment-page-1/#comment-591</link>
		<dc:creator>Climate 411 &#38;#187; Rise of Atmospheric Carbon is Accelerating - Environmental Defense</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 16:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Last month, Michael explained why we need to cut emissions as soon as possible. A new paper published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences adds even more urgency. It says that: [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Last month, Michael explained why we need to cut emissions as soon as possible. A new paper published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences adds even more urgency. It says that: [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://blogs.edf.org/climate411/2007/10/19/urgency_of_action/comment-page-1/#comment-590</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 17:06:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;IF all the ice on the planet melted, rising sea levels wouldn&#039;t be our first concern.&quot;

What is our first concern?   I take it your not discrediting rising sea levels, just critiqueing, but what is this other concern?

To deter from the main point, I&#039;m of the mind set that you could show me all the scientific data you want that say&#039;s one thing or the other and I won&#039;t believe either.  Screw global warming and nuts to the economy.  Is the only reason we are trying to curb unethical development because it&#039;s bad for business or it may destroy the planet?  I need no scientific data to tell me that if I put mercury in my neighbors drink for free I&#039;m a criminal, so corporations that put things much worse in the world&#039;s well to further increase an already rediculous profit margin aren&#039;t criminals, they are poorly written super villans.  You know, the kind who&#039;s diabolical plan is so retarded that the 6 year old reading the comic book questions who wrote it.  Yet here they are, externalizing sterio-types of the sociopathic corporate entity.

When I was a kid I always wondered how Lex Luthar could be Supermans rival.  How could a rich industrialist compete with someone that could was bullit proof and could fly?  I thought it was unrealistic.  Now we live in a world where we find out about botched corporate disasters every day.  There is always a meteor headed towards earth, or a government trained super weapon running lose.  They are chemicals in our water and hormones in our food, and they kill more people than a comic book has ever shown being killed.

How could Lex compete with Superman?  Because in the real world, we would crucify Superman just as quickly as the big J.C.  Every Lex he brought in to the police station would be a hit to the economy.  Every bomb deffused would be a business practice violation with negative financial returns.  Superman would be sued in a court of law for harassing businesses because every evil deed was a profit making opportunity, and the potential health concerns were considered secondary to the returns of the shareholders.

Welcome to the real world- you&#039;re Lex&#039;s evil henchmen and every time you&#039;re putting the economy over public safety, your shooting Superman with Kryptonite.  Now tell that to the 6 year old version of yourself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#034;IF all the ice on the planet melted, rising sea levels wouldn&#039;t be our first concern.&#034;</p>
<p>What is our first concern?   I take it your not discrediting rising sea levels, just critiqueing, but what is this other concern?</p>
<p>To deter from the main point, I&#039;m of the mind set that you could show me all the scientific data you want that say&#039;s one thing or the other and I won&#039;t believe either.  Screw global warming and nuts to the economy.  Is the only reason we are trying to curb unethical development because it&#039;s bad for business or it may destroy the planet?  I need no scientific data to tell me that if I put mercury in my neighbors drink for free I&#039;m a criminal, so corporations that put things much worse in the world&#039;s well to further increase an already rediculous profit margin aren&#039;t criminals, they are poorly written super villans.  You know, the kind who&#039;s diabolical plan is so retarded that the 6 year old reading the comic book questions who wrote it.  Yet here they are, externalizing sterio-types of the sociopathic corporate entity.</p>
<p>When I was a kid I always wondered how Lex Luthar could be Supermans rival.  How could a rich industrialist compete with someone that could was bullit proof and could fly?  I thought it was unrealistic.  Now we live in a world where we find out about botched corporate disasters every day.  There is always a meteor headed towards earth, or a government trained super weapon running lose.  They are chemicals in our water and hormones in our food, and they kill more people than a comic book has ever shown being killed.</p>
<p>How could Lex compete with Superman?  Because in the real world, we would crucify Superman just as quickly as the big J.C.  Every Lex he brought in to the police station would be a hit to the economy.  Every bomb deffused would be a business practice violation with negative financial returns.  Superman would be sued in a court of law for harassing businesses because every evil deed was a profit making opportunity, and the potential health concerns were considered secondary to the returns of the shareholders.</p>
<p>Welcome to the real world- you&#039;re Lex&#039;s evil henchmen and every time you&#039;re putting the economy over public safety, your shooting Superman with Kryptonite.  Now tell that to the 6 year old version of yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: alienphysicist</title>
		<link>http://blogs.edf.org/climate411/2007/10/19/urgency_of_action/comment-page-1/#comment-589</link>
		<dc:creator>alienphysicist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 20:03:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The graphs are great but it looks to me that you have over-estimated sea level rise in a couple of ways. First, all ice would have to melt and second, the remaining dry land would have to stay at the same level it is now. Neither could easily happen. IF all the ice on the planet melted, rising sea levels wouldn&#039;t be our first concern. Second, IF all the ice melted dry land would actually rise due to the change in mass. Land only seems to be solid on small scales. In truth land masses flex, rise, and fall. Filling the seas with all the proposed ice-melt would cause the land masses to rise.

A quick note about corollary pseudoscience: When a theory isn&#039;t testable, or is drawn from data that doesn&#039;t exist, it isn&#039;t science. When a theory rests upon corollary evidence, it is pseudoscience. No matter where we stand on an issue, this is the case and pseudoscience will never be real science no matter how much we want it to be so.

Surface and atmospheric temperatures have increased throughout our solar system. It is unlikely to be an unrelated phenomenon.

The accuracy of the &quot;extrapolated dates&quot; from ice cores and geological record are debatable. That doesn&#039;t mean they are wrong, but it does mean they are questionable.

Solar output isn&#039;t understood today, much less during the past when we don&#039;t know how to extract that information from ice, geologic, or fossil record. Data &quot;cleansing&quot; in this area results in casting doubt upon conclusions drawn from that data.

Think globally, act locally -- let&#039;s not make fools of ourselves on the international stage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The graphs are great but it looks to me that you have over-estimated sea level rise in a couple of ways. First, all ice would have to melt and second, the remaining dry land would have to stay at the same level it is now. Neither could easily happen. IF all the ice on the planet melted, rising sea levels wouldn&#039;t be our first concern. Second, IF all the ice melted dry land would actually rise due to the change in mass. Land only seems to be solid on small scales. In truth land masses flex, rise, and fall. Filling the seas with all the proposed ice-melt would cause the land masses to rise.</p>
<p>A quick note about corollary pseudoscience: When a theory isn&#039;t testable, or is drawn from data that doesn&#039;t exist, it isn&#039;t science. When a theory rests upon corollary evidence, it is pseudoscience. No matter where we stand on an issue, this is the case and pseudoscience will never be real science no matter how much we want it to be so.</p>
<p>Surface and atmospheric temperatures have increased throughout our solar system. It is unlikely to be an unrelated phenomenon.</p>
<p>The accuracy of the &#034;extrapolated dates&#034; from ice cores and geological record are debatable. That doesn&#039;t mean they are wrong, but it does mean they are questionable.</p>
<p>Solar output isn&#039;t understood today, much less during the past when we don&#039;t know how to extract that information from ice, geologic, or fossil record. Data &#034;cleansing&#034; in this area results in casting doubt upon conclusions drawn from that data.</p>
<p>Think globally, act locally &#8212; let&#039;s not make fools of ourselves on the international stage.</p>
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