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	<title>Comments on: Mercury Poisoning from Light Bulbs?</title>
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		<title>By: babitha anbali</title>
		<link>http://blogs.edf.org/climate411/2007/05/01/cfl_mercury/comment-page-1/#comment-6443</link>
		<dc:creator>babitha anbali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 07:26:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>recycling methods are not effective in poorly developed contries. the companies will not collect the cfls after the guarantee date. moreover there are many companies who giving cheaper cfls without any guarantee. then how we will recycle it? can you give me the answer</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>recycling methods are not effective in poorly developed contries. the companies will not collect the cfls after the guarantee date. moreover there are many companies who giving cheaper cfls without any guarantee. then how we will recycle it? can you give me the answer</p>
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		<title>By: babitha anbali</title>
		<link>http://blogs.edf.org/climate411/2007/05/01/cfl_mercury/comment-page-1/#comment-6442</link>
		<dc:creator>babitha anbali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 07:21:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>even though cfl reduses mercury pollution by using a little amount of mercury. it will adversely affect our health. if it broken in our room. the mercury vapors may inhaled. if we throw it to the soil it will contaminate the soil. so it is really a challenge to our greener environment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>even though cfl reduses mercury pollution by using a little amount of mercury. it will adversely affect our health. if it broken in our room. the mercury vapors may inhaled. if we throw it to the soil it will contaminate the soil. so it is really a challenge to our greener environment.</p>
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		<title>By: Club Penguin Cheats</title>
		<link>http://blogs.edf.org/climate411/2007/05/01/cfl_mercury/comment-page-1/#comment-5797</link>
		<dc:creator>Club Penguin Cheats</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 07:51:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellently written article, if only all bloggers offered the same content as you, the internet would be a much better place. Please keep it up!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellently written article, if only all bloggers offered the same content as you, the internet would be a much better place. Please keep it up!</p>
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		<title>By: phillipe</title>
		<link>http://blogs.edf.org/climate411/2007/05/01/cfl_mercury/comment-page-1/#comment-1988</link>
		<dc:creator>phillipe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 09:59:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mercury performs a useful function in workplaces and even at home. But still, it is a toxic and can impair our health. Mercury is a highly dangerous substance that can kill if exposed to only a small amount. Jeremy Piven, star of the multiple Emmy award winning HBO program Entourage, was earning some serious extra cash for appearing in a Broadway play. He left the production on advice from his doctor due to a high mercury count in his blood. If you want to find out what would cause Jeremy Piven to turn down so much &lt;a title=&quot;What could cause Jeremy Piven to turn down extra cash&quot; href=&quot;http://personalmoneystore.com/moneyblog/2008/12/18/piven-turns-down-extra-cash-because-of-mercury-count/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;extra cash&lt;/a&gt;, check out this article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mercury performs a useful function in workplaces and even at home. But still, it is a toxic and can impair our health. Mercury is a highly dangerous substance that can kill if exposed to only a small amount. Jeremy Piven, star of the multiple Emmy award winning HBO program Entourage, was earning some serious extra cash for appearing in a Broadway play. He left the production on advice from his doctor due to a high mercury count in his blood. If you want to find out what would cause Jeremy Piven to turn down so much <a title="What could cause Jeremy Piven to turn down extra cash" href="http://personalmoneystore.com/moneyblog/2008/12/18/piven-turns-down-extra-cash-because-of-mercury-count/" rel="nofollow">extra cash</a>, check out this article.</p>
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		<title>By: johnt</title>
		<link>http://blogs.edf.org/climate411/2007/05/01/cfl_mercury/comment-page-1/#comment-1759</link>
		<dc:creator>johnt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 18:29:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another point, 800 people a day die of cigarette smoking, yet nothing is said about this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another point, 800 people a day die of cigarette smoking, yet nothing is said about this.</p>
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		<title>By: johnt</title>
		<link>http://blogs.edf.org/climate411/2007/05/01/cfl_mercury/comment-page-1/#comment-1758</link>
		<dc:creator>johnt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 18:27:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The above analysis concludes that in the life of a CFL, there is 13.6 mg of mercury. Two counter points, 

a) if you recycle the bulbs, the mercury is recovered. 
b) I doubt that more than 1 in 100 bulbs are broken in the process of installation/removal. I have to admit, I broke on installing it. 
c) The mercury emissions from coal fired plants is often only considering air emissions. I don&#039;t know if this is the case with the above quoted numbers. Air pollution control hardware is 90% efficiency, so that said, nearly 10x the amount of mercury is captured in the ash and landfilled in toxic waste landfills or sequested in concrete blocks. 
d) Mercury is only one of the pollutants from coal. Sulfur dioxide, uranium, thorium, lead, are also pollutants from coal. 
e) Coal mining has killed tens of thousands of people over the years, both with mine accidents and black lung disease. 
f) Coal mining has created huge environmental disasters in the past, and even with todays environmental considerations continues to create a lot of torn up mountains, and culm. 

For me the best thing to do is to first turn off lights when not in use. Many people do not do this. Second, use lower watt bulbs, or dimmers. Third, you only need to install CFL&#039;s in the top 3 or so lights you use most frequently. 

Last but not least, take your incandescent bulb, turn it upside down, and look at the bottom. You will see a drop of solder on most bulbs, which is lead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The above analysis concludes that in the life of a CFL, there is 13.6 mg of mercury. Two counter points, </p>
<p>a) if you recycle the bulbs, the mercury is recovered.<br />
b) I doubt that more than 1 in 100 bulbs are broken in the process of installation/removal. I have to admit, I broke on installing it.<br />
c) The mercury emissions from coal fired plants is often only considering air emissions. I don&#039;t know if this is the case with the above quoted numbers. Air pollution control hardware is 90% efficiency, so that said, nearly 10x the amount of mercury is captured in the ash and landfilled in toxic waste landfills or sequested in concrete blocks.<br />
d) Mercury is only one of the pollutants from coal. Sulfur dioxide, uranium, thorium, lead, are also pollutants from coal.<br />
e) Coal mining has killed tens of thousands of people over the years, both with mine accidents and black lung disease.<br />
f) Coal mining has created huge environmental disasters in the past, and even with todays environmental considerations continues to create a lot of torn up mountains, and culm. </p>
<p>For me the best thing to do is to first turn off lights when not in use. Many people do not do this. Second, use lower watt bulbs, or dimmers. Third, you only need to install CFL&#039;s in the top 3 or so lights you use most frequently. </p>
<p>Last but not least, take your incandescent bulb, turn it upside down, and look at the bottom. You will see a drop of solder on most bulbs, which is lead.</p>
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		<title>By: Is there a downside to Energy Saving Bulbs?</title>
		<link>http://blogs.edf.org/climate411/2007/05/01/cfl_mercury/comment-page-1/#comment-1594</link>
		<dc:creator>Is there a downside to Energy Saving Bulbs?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 22:50:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Enviornmental Defense Blog - Mercury Poisoning from Light Bulbs? [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Environmental Defense Fund: Easy Recycling of Compact Fluorescent Light Bulbs : Sustainablog</title>
		<link>http://blogs.edf.org/climate411/2007/05/01/cfl_mercury/comment-page-1/#comment-1564</link>
		<dc:creator>Environmental Defense Fund: Easy Recycling of Compact Fluorescent Light Bulbs : Sustainablog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 22:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of light. (For why, see Bill&#8217;s post &#8220;Why Switch to Compact Fluorescents&#8220;.) But some people fear CFLs because of the tiny amount of mercury they contain. The risk from a broken CFL is extremely small, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of light. (For why, see Bill&#039;s post &#034;Why Switch to Compact Fluorescents&#034;.) But some people fear CFLs because of the tiny amount of mercury they contain. The risk from a broken CFL is extremely small, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: onesmallinstrument</title>
		<link>http://blogs.edf.org/climate411/2007/05/01/cfl_mercury/comment-page-1/#comment-1551</link>
		<dc:creator>onesmallinstrument</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 20:32:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Home Depot is now accepting CFL&#039;s for recycling!</description>
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		<title>By: lees</title>
		<link>http://blogs.edf.org/climate411/2007/05/01/cfl_mercury/comment-page-1/#comment-915</link>
		<dc:creator>lees</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 23:46:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, the statement *is* correct. The figure often cited is .0234 milligrams/kWh of *coal* generated power (http://www.popularmechanics.com/blogs/home_journal_news/4217864.html). Coal contributes slightly over 50% of our energy needs in the US. The burden nationwide, on average, is then .0117 mg/kWh.Yes, you may burn 80% or 90% coal in your light bulbs, but as a nation, the .0117 number is the one to use when evaluating widespread adoption. This means a 22W CFL (about equivalent to a 100W incandescent in light emission) with a rated life of 6000 hours will, on average, represent  about 1.5mg of mercury emissions from a coal plant in its rated lifetime. A 100W incandescent will represent an emission of about 7mg in the same time period. At the end of that life, the CFL will put around 4mg (perhaps much higher in some brands and lower in others) plus 1.5mg into the environment. We can argue all day about which form of mercury is worse, but first lets look at the myth that CFL&#039;s use less mercury. 

To produce purified mercury in a CFL, the extraction process releases about .4mg  for every milligram produced into the waterways, atmosphere, and soil as waste. This is a well-established worldwide average that includes many processes, both crude and hi-tech. This means that the 4mg in the CFL actually represents 5.6mg of mercury that enters our environment. Adding the coal energy contribution means the CFL&#039;s account for 7.1mg versus 7mg for incandescents. 

Add to this the Lawrence Livermore Laboratories study that concluded that the average CFL life is reduced by 50% where they are turned on and off every hour and the mercury contribution goes up to a whopping 13.6mg or so. The reduction in incandescent life for the same use model (20%) does not affect its mercury consumption and it remains at 7mg or so. The same study concluded that a 30 minute use model reduced the CFL life by 85%...which would mean the CFL would use ..gulp.. 38.8mg of mercury by the time the rated life of the CFL was reached...compared to the 7mg used by the incandescents. 

These are real numbers. CFL&#039;s can offer significant energy savings in general. However, the thrust of a lot of pro-CFL articles in addressing mercury emissions is completely unfettered by reality by claiming less mercury pollution is generated through CFL adoption. CFL&#039;s will use a lot more mercury than incandescents, period. How unhealthy that mercury is is a valid debate, however.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, the statement *is* correct. The figure often cited is .0234 milligrams/kWh of *coal* generated power (<a href="http://www.popularmechanics.com/blogs/home_journal_news/4217864.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.popularmechanics.com/blogs/home_journal_news/4217864.html</a>). Coal contributes slightly over 50% of our energy needs in the US. The burden nationwide, on average, is then .0117 mg/kWh.Yes, you may burn 80% or 90% coal in your light bulbs, but as a nation, the .0117 number is the one to use when evaluating widespread adoption. This means a 22W CFL (about equivalent to a 100W incandescent in light emission) with a rated life of 6000 hours will, on average, represent  about 1.5mg of mercury emissions from a coal plant in its rated lifetime. A 100W incandescent will represent an emission of about 7mg in the same time period. At the end of that life, the CFL will put around 4mg (perhaps much higher in some brands and lower in others) plus 1.5mg into the environment. We can argue all day about which form of mercury is worse, but first lets look at the myth that CFL&#039;s use less mercury. </p>
<p>To produce purified mercury in a CFL, the extraction process releases about .4mg  for every milligram produced into the waterways, atmosphere, and soil as waste. This is a well-established worldwide average that includes many processes, both crude and hi-tech. This means that the 4mg in the CFL actually represents 5.6mg of mercury that enters our environment. Adding the coal energy contribution means the CFL&#039;s account for 7.1mg versus 7mg for incandescents. </p>
<p>Add to this the Lawrence Livermore Laboratories study that concluded that the average CFL life is reduced by 50% where they are turned on and off every hour and the mercury contribution goes up to a whopping 13.6mg or so. The reduction in incandescent life for the same use model (20%) does not affect its mercury consumption and it remains at 7mg or so. The same study concluded that a 30 minute use model reduced the CFL life by 85%&#8230;which would mean the CFL would use ..gulp.. 38.8mg of mercury by the time the rated life of the CFL was reached&#8230;compared to the 7mg used by the incandescents. </p>
<p>These are real numbers. CFL&#039;s can offer significant energy savings in general. However, the thrust of a lot of pro-CFL articles in addressing mercury emissions is completely unfettered by reality by claiming less mercury pollution is generated through CFL adoption. CFL&#039;s will use a lot more mercury than incandescents, period. How unhealthy that mercury is is a valid debate, however.</p>
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