Comments on: Carbon Offsets Count http://blogs.edf.org/climate411/2007/03/08/carbon_offsets/ Blogging the science and policy of global warming Mon, 16 Nov 2009 07:13:20 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5.2 hourly 1 By: Climate 411 » Agricultural Offsets - Blogs & Podcasts - Environmental Defense Fund http://blogs.edf.org/climate411/2007/03/08/carbon_offsets/comment-page-1/#comment-1159 Climate 411 » Agricultural Offsets - Blogs & Podcasts - Environmental Defense Fund Tue, 22 Apr 2008 18:16:54 +0000 http://blogs.edf.org/climate411/2007/03/08/carbon_offsets/#comment-1159 [...] Some feel that offsets are just a way for people to absolve themselves of guilt without making difficult changes. For example, someone who drives a gas-guzzling hummer can buy offsets and then say they aren’t contributing to global warming. Of course it’s better if people minimize their emissions then offset the rest. But regardless, offsets lead to less greenhouse gas emissions, and that’s a good thing. (To learn more about offsets, see this earlier post.) [...] [...] Some feel that offsets are just a way for people to absolve themselves of guilt without making difficult changes. For example, someone who drives a gas-guzzling hummer can buy offsets and then say they aren't contributing to global warming. Of course it's better if people minimize their emissions then offset the rest. But regardless, offsets lead to less greenhouse gas emissions, and that's a good thing. (To learn more about offsets, see this earlier post.) [...]

]]> By: Sheryl Canter http://blogs.edf.org/climate411/2007/03/08/carbon_offsets/comment-page-1/#comment-66 Sheryl Canter Thu, 15 Nov 2007 18:31:53 +0000 http://blogs.edf.org/climate411/2007/03/08/carbon_offsets/#comment-66 Junk - that's a silly comment. The fact is, cap-and-trade can be incredibly effective. Witness what happened with acid rain, which was solved through a cap-and-trade program. We met our goals at a tenth of the anticipated costs. Here's a link with more info: http://www.environmentaldefense.org/documents/645_SO2.pdf Junk – that's a silly comment. The fact is, cap-and-trade can be incredibly effective. Witness what happened with acid rain, which was solved through a cap-and-trade program. We met our goals at a tenth of the anticipated costs. Here's a link with more info:

http://www.environmentaldefense.org/documents/645_SO2.pdf

]]> By: JunkInJunkOut http://blogs.edf.org/climate411/2007/03/08/carbon_offsets/comment-page-1/#comment-65 JunkInJunkOut Fri, 09 Nov 2007 18:32:32 +0000 http://blogs.edf.org/climate411/2007/03/08/carbon_offsets/#comment-65 Europeans know very well in future their economies cannot grow much, and they see they cannot remain towards the top. So they craft this carbon cap trade racket to slow down the faster growing economies. It is important to know what this noise is all about. Europeans know very well in future their economies cannot grow much, and they see they cannot remain towards the top. So they craft this carbon cap trade racket to slow down the faster growing economies.
It is important to know what this noise is all about.

]]> By: josephmx http://blogs.edf.org/climate411/2007/03/08/carbon_offsets/comment-page-1/#comment-64 josephmx Thu, 17 May 2007 14:16:29 +0000 http://blogs.edf.org/climate411/2007/03/08/carbon_offsets/#comment-64 Hi, I have just seen test data on a new product developed in Brazil and will be available here in the US very soon. It is called the Blade by Sabertec www.sabertec.org - They had the product tested at an EPA approved testing lab in Ontario California. This product increases feul economy. The gentleman at the lab told me "it works" he doesnt know how but he said it definately works. The EPA has tested over 109 gas saving products and has not yet seen one work. I tried this on my car and increases my mileage by 2 MPG. I recomeend anyone who is concerned about emissions from their cars look into this product. I will never drive a car without this product on it... Hi, I have just seen test data on a new product developed in Brazil and will be available here in the US very soon. It is called the Blade by Sabertec http://www.sabertec.org – They had the product tested at an EPA approved testing lab in Ontario California. This product increases feul economy. The gentleman at the lab told me "it works" he doesnt know how but he said it definately works. The EPA has tested over 109 gas saving products and has not yet seen one work. I tried this on my car and increases my mileage by 2 MPG. I recomeend anyone who is concerned about emissions from their cars look into this product. I will never drive a car without this product on it…

]]> By: YahooO2 | RealGood http://blogs.edf.org/climate411/2007/03/08/carbon_offsets/comment-page-1/#comment-63 YahooO2 | RealGood Thu, 19 Apr 2007 04:40:49 +0000 http://blogs.edf.org/climate411/2007/03/08/carbon_offsets/#comment-63 [...] I didn’t realize offsets, which have become a bit of a corporate greening trend these days in IT are apparently controversial or at least a subject of debate. Hey, anything equivalent to taking 25K cars off the streets seems like a good thing, net effect or not it’s a step in the right direction and hopefully will cause others to outdo each other and compete to be more green than the next guy. [...] [...] I didn’t realize offsets, which have become a bit of a corporate greening trend these days in IT are apparently controversial or at least a subject of debate. Hey, anything equivalent to taking 25K cars off the streets seems like a good thing, net effect or not it’s a step in the right direction and hopefully will cause others to outdo each other and compete to be more green than the next guy. [...]

]]> By: One/Change » Blog Archive » Yahoo goes carbon neutral http://blogs.edf.org/climate411/2007/03/08/carbon_offsets/comment-page-1/#comment-62 One/Change » Blog Archive » Yahoo goes carbon neutral Wed, 18 Apr 2007 15:45:29 +0000 http://blogs.edf.org/climate411/2007/03/08/carbon_offsets/#comment-62 [...] We think our offset program counts, but since this is a new and emerging market, we expect to learn as we go, and we’ll be transparent with you along the way. In fact, we’d like your help in all this — we want your inventive and creative ideas for potential offset projects. Please weigh in over at Yahoo! Answers. And read more about our overall approach here. [...] [...] We think our offset program counts, but since this is a new and emerging market, we expect to learn as we go, and we’ll be transparent with you along the way. In fact, we’d like your help in all this — we want your inventive and creative ideas for potential offset projects. Please weigh in over at Yahoo! Answers. And read more about our overall approach here. [...]

]]> By: Don’t even leave a footprint - Yodel Anecdotal http://blogs.edf.org/climate411/2007/03/08/carbon_offsets/comment-page-1/#comment-61 Don’t even leave a footprint - Yodel Anecdotal Wed, 18 Apr 2007 00:00:36 +0000 http://blogs.edf.org/climate411/2007/03/08/carbon_offsets/#comment-61 [...] We think our offset program counts, but since this is a new and emerging market, we expect to learn as we go, and we’ll be transparent with you along the way. In fact, we’d like your help in all this — we want your inventive and creative ideas for potential offset projects. Please weigh in over at Yahoo! Answers. And read more about our overall approach here. [...] [...] We think our offset program counts, but since this is a new and emerging market, we expect to learn as we go, and we’ll be transparent with you along the way. In fact, we’d like your help in all this — we want your inventive and creative ideas for potential offset projects. Please weigh in over at Yahoo! Answers. And read more about our overall approach here. [...]

]]> By: Climate 411 » Cheat Offsetting? - Environmental Defense http://blogs.edf.org/climate411/2007/03/08/carbon_offsets/comment-page-1/#comment-60 Climate 411 » Cheat Offsetting? - Environmental Defense Thu, 22 Mar 2007 15:21:51 +0000 http://blogs.edf.org/climate411/2007/03/08/carbon_offsets/#comment-60 [...] Carbon offsets have been in the news a lot lately because Al Gore said he used them, much to the derision of some misinformed people (see my post on carbon offsets). The funniest of these potshots came from the Web site cheatneutral.com, which says: [...] [...] Carbon offsets have been in the news a lot lately because Al Gore said he used them, much to the derision of some misinformed people (see my post on carbon offsets). The funniest of these potshots came from the Web site cheatneutral.com, which says: [...]

]]> By: Bill Chameides http://blogs.edf.org/climate411/2007/03/08/carbon_offsets/comment-page-1/#comment-59 Bill Chameides Tue, 13 Mar 2007 16:02:38 +0000 http://blogs.edf.org/climate411/2007/03/08/carbon_offsets/#comment-59 There was a good article in the <em>NY Times</em> the other day about carbon offsets - worth a look: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/09/opinion/09easterbrook.html There was a good article in the NY Times the other day about carbon offsets – worth a look:

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/09/opinion/09easterbrook.html

]]> By: Enrique http://blogs.edf.org/climate411/2007/03/08/carbon_offsets/comment-page-1/#comment-58 Enrique Sun, 11 Mar 2007 16:16:42 +0000 http://blogs.edf.org/climate411/2007/03/08/carbon_offsets/#comment-58 Hi Bill: I am not rejecting carbon trade. For everything I have read and I am just a citizen, Even if we stop producing C02 right now, the Earth will continue to warm up. There are 150 plus coal-plants in the drawing board in the U.S. alone. I completel agree with you. Every little thing helps. The fastest way to stop the madness is to change our beliefs that consumption is the key to happiness. For example, I will be complete off the energy grid in 5 years. In order to that, I need to install solar panels which it will cost around $18,000. Well, There is a trade-off. I won't be buying a new car either. The mantra could be dream globably, act locally, go solar and buy a hydrogen power car. Hi Bill:

I am not rejecting carbon trade. For everything I have read and I am just a citizen, Even if we stop producing C02 right now, the Earth will continue to warm up.
There are 150 plus coal-plants in the drawing board in the U.S. alone.
I completel agree with you. Every little thing helps. The fastest way to stop the madness is to change our beliefs that consumption is the key to happiness.
For example, I will be complete off the energy grid in 5 years. In order to that, I need to install solar panels which it will cost around $18,000. Well, There is a trade-off. I won't be buying a new car either.
The mantra could be dream globably, act locally, go solar and buy a hydrogen power car.

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